<p>A guest on CBS News&#8217; &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; attempted to claim on Sunday&#8217;s broadcast that despite reports of pre-dawn raids and the confiscation of electronics, German citizens really do enjoy free speech — until they say something that law enforcement interprets as &#8220;hate speech.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr. Matthäus Fink sat down with host Sharyn Alfonsi to discuss the topic, and he explained how the recent raids had played out.</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s the typical reaction when the police show up at somebody&#8217;s door and they say, &#8216;Hey, we believe you wrote this on the internet&#8217;?&#8221; Alfonsi asked.</p>
<p>Fink said that the initial reaction was typically disbelief — mainly because they believed they were entitled to freedom of speech: &#8220;They say — in Germany we say, &#8216;<em>Das wird man ja wohl noch sagen dürfen</em>.&#8217; So we are here with crimes of talking, posting on internet, and the people are surprised that this is really illegal to post these kind of words.&#8221;</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">In Germany, posting hate speech online is illegal. The law is enforced with pre-dawn police raids. <a href="https://t.co/DNAJyNxILt">https://t.co/DNAJyNxILt</a> <a href="https://t.co/OHvWTVaRjQ">pic.twitter.com/OHvWTVaRjQ</a></p>
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<p>&#8220;They don&#8217;t think it was illegal. And they say, &#8216;No, that&#8217;s my free speech.&#8217; And we say, &#8216;No, you have free speech as well, but it is also has its limits,'&#8221; Fink continued.</p>
<p>Fink also revealed during the interview that in addition to posting swastika images or any other Nazi symbols — and even denying the Holocaust – it was also illegal to insult another person in public.</p>
<p>&#8220;And it&#8217;s a crime to insult them online as well?&#8221; Alfonsi asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;The fine could be even higher if you insult someone in the internet,&#8221; Fink replied, explaining, &#8220;Because in internet, it stays there. If we are talking face to face, you insult me, I insult you, okay. Finish. But if you&#8217;re in the internet, if I insult you or a politician &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The interview comes just days after Vice President <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-people-have-a-voice-vance-warns-europe-about-censorship-the-threat-from-within" target="_blank" rel="noopener">JD Vance</a> spoke in Munich about the dangers posed by European nations like Germany when they policed the free speech of and even outright censored their people.</p>
<p>&#8220;<span id="subtitle398" class="subtitle" data-id="398" data-start="1929840" data-end="1934640">Democracy rests</span> <span id="subtitle399" class="subtitle" data-id="399" data-start="1934700" data-end="1937040">on the sacred principle that the voice</span> <span id="subtitle400" class="subtitle" data-id="400" data-start="1937040" data-end="1937250">of t</span><span id="subtitle401" class="subtitle" data-id="401" data-start="1937280" data-end="1938660">he people matters. </span><span id="subtitle402" class="subtitle" data-id="402" data-start="1939290" data-end="1943010">There’s no room for firewalls,&#8221; Vance said. &#8220;You either</span> <span id="subtitle403" class="subtitle" data-id="403" data-start="1943010" data-end="1945320">uphold the principal or you don’t.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>It also comes just a few hours after &#8220;Face the Nation&#8221; host claimed — during an interview with Secretary of State Marco Rubio — that the Holocaust had been caused by the fact that &#8220;free speech was weaponized.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rubio quickly shut Brennan down, explaining that censorship had been one of the hallmarks of the Nazi regime.</p>

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